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	<title>Comments on: grad skool rulz #22: publishing in grad school</title>
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		<title>By: How Did You Handle Your First Rejection? &#171; The Sociological Imagination</title>
		<link>http://orgtheory.wordpress.com/2009/06/29/grad-skool-rulz-22-publishing-in-grad-school/#comment-84744</link>
		<dc:creator>How Did You Handle Your First Rejection? &#171; The Sociological Imagination</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 19, 2009 &#183; Leave a Comment  Fabio Rojas gives excellent advice on publishing in graduate school.  But that first rejection, quite frankly, hurts!  By the time [...]</description>
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		<title>By: doctoral student</title>
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		<dc:creator>doctoral student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 19:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi- this list is very helpful.  Another great tip would be learning how to leverage technology/web in graduate school.  The ones I know of are academic blogs, zotero, RSS feeds, and those firefox add-ons that shut down your browser when you are procrastinating too much.  I&#039;m sure there are more...  any ideas?</description>
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		<title>By: Advice for Young Scholars &#124; General Grad School Advice &#124; Robert Vesco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Advice for Young Scholars &#124; General Grad School Advice &#124; Robert Vesco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 01:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: grad skool rulz #22.2: the publishing process &#171; orgtheory.net</title>
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		<dc:creator>grad skool rulz #22.2: the publishing process &#171; orgtheory.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 01:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a comment &#187;  A few weeks ago, I wrote on the importance of publishing in graduate school and how one might do it. A few folks asked for a post that describes the publication process in more detail. Here it [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Book Reviews &#171; The Sociological Imagination</title>
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		<dc:creator>Book Reviews &#171; The Sociological Imagination</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 17, 2009 &#183; Leave a Comment  My esteemed co-blogger Brian asked this in an Orgtheory post and I wanted to follow up. What is the value of doing book reviews? I&#8217;ve heard mixed things [...]</description>
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		<title>By: fabiorojas</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strix: The status of Social Forces has been debated numerous times on orgtheory and scatter. Omar had a lengthy post on the relative status of Social Forces:

http://orgtheory.wordpress.com/2007/03/01/sociology-journals-and-the-geometry-of-the-resource-space/

My general experience is that you are correct. AJS/ASR are considered of similar quality by top programs, a bit above SF. But as one esteemed senior colleague once said &quot; and maaaaybe Social Forces.&quot; I think what he was trying to communicate was that with AJS/ASR you get the presumption of quality. For SF, you&#039;d have to make an argument for it, but it&#039;s not totally crazy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strix: The status of Social Forces has been debated numerous times on orgtheory and scatter. Omar had a lengthy post on the relative status of Social Forces:</p>
<p><a href="http://orgtheory.wordpress.com/2007/03/01/sociology-journals-and-the-geometry-of-the-resource-space/" rel="nofollow">http://orgtheory.wordpress.com/2007/03/01/sociology-journals-and-the-geometry-of-the-resource-space/</a></p>
<p>My general experience is that you are correct. AJS/ASR are considered of similar quality by top programs, a bit above SF. But as one esteemed senior colleague once said &#8221; and maaaaybe Social Forces.&#8221; I think what he was trying to communicate was that with AJS/ASR you get the presumption of quality. For SF, you&#8217;d have to make an argument for it, but it&#8217;s not totally crazy.</p>
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		<title>By: strix</title>
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		<dc:creator>strix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a question that&#039;s been bothering me for some time and I&#039;d be really curious to hear what you guys know about it. It seems to me that everyone agrees that Social Forces is a top journal in sociology, but how much does a SF pub count for your CV, really? E.g., will top sociology departments generally count it as an &quot;A&quot; publication in tenure decisions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a question that&#8217;s been bothering me for some time and I&#8217;d be really curious to hear what you guys know about it. It seems to me that everyone agrees that Social Forces is a top journal in sociology, but how much does a SF pub count for your CV, really? E.g., will top sociology departments generally count it as an &#8220;A&#8221; publication in tenure decisions?</p>
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		<title>By: brayden</title>
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		<dc:creator>brayden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 05:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Musa - Right, I certainly don&#039;t advocate writing long literature reviews in each article just to show off how much you know. The reason for getting to know the literature is to help you figure out which problems are most interesting and to help you sell those problems as interesting to your readers. There are lots of interesting findings out there that don&#039;t get widely read because they are not properly situated in the literature and therefore the underlying puzzle is not communicated. More importantly, if you don&#039;t know what has been said before about a topic, you probably won&#039;t know the right questions to ask and therefore your analyses will be underdeveloped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Musa &#8211; Right, I certainly don&#8217;t advocate writing long literature reviews in each article just to show off how much you know. The reason for getting to know the literature is to help you figure out which problems are most interesting and to help you sell those problems as interesting to your readers. There are lots of interesting findings out there that don&#8217;t get widely read because they are not properly situated in the literature and therefore the underlying puzzle is not communicated. More importantly, if you don&#8217;t know what has been said before about a topic, you probably won&#8217;t know the right questions to ask and therefore your analyses will be underdeveloped.</p>
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		<title>By: cwalken</title>
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		<dc:creator>cwalken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 01:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Josh and Michael Bishop

Don&#039;t forget Sociology Compass for short review pieces. Not as comprehensive or authoritative as the Annual Reviews for sure, but they publish often and have many good people writing for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Josh and Michael Bishop</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget Sociology Compass for short review pieces. Not as comprehensive or authoritative as the Annual Reviews for sure, but they publish often and have many good people writing for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Hillbilly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hillbilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 01:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post comes in a timely manner given that searches are starting to crank up for the upcoming year.

I fully support the &quot;read, read, read&quot; notion. I found that to be the point when I really started to &quot;step up my game,&quot; if you will. One of the other things that my diss chair made me go through for several months is rewriting and editing of some of my work, focusing on the structure of my writing. Despite some of the cited critiques, Strunk and White&#039;s &quot;Elements of Style&quot; was helpful.  &quot;Revising Prose&quot; was also helpful since many of academics like to see how long they can stretch a sentence. Moreover, both helped with those word length restrictions for the journal articles. The &quot;writing bootcamp&quot; gave me more of an ability to change between &quot;dissertation writing&quot; and &quot;article writing.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post comes in a timely manner given that searches are starting to crank up for the upcoming year.</p>
<p>I fully support the &#8220;read, read, read&#8221; notion. I found that to be the point when I really started to &#8220;step up my game,&#8221; if you will. One of the other things that my diss chair made me go through for several months is rewriting and editing of some of my work, focusing on the structure of my writing. Despite some of the cited critiques, Strunk and White&#8217;s &#8220;Elements of Style&#8221; was helpful.  &#8220;Revising Prose&#8221; was also helpful since many of academics like to see how long they can stretch a sentence. Moreover, both helped with those word length restrictions for the journal articles. The &#8220;writing bootcamp&#8221; gave me more of an ability to change between &#8220;dissertation writing&#8221; and &#8220;article writing.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: musa</title>
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		<dc:creator>musa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 01:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to nitpick Brayden but a while back you wrote in regard to lit reviews:

&quot;Teppo is referring to a set of tips that Ezra Z. posted to his website about how to write articles. Quoting again from Ezra’s very helpful tips: “Never write literature reviews. The only reason anyone cares about a literature is because it is helpful in clarifying puzzles in the world. So start with the puzzle.”

This is a nice piece of advice and one that I wish I could integrate better in my own work.&quot;

So...how do you write a paper that doesn&#039;t have an exhaustive lit review yet still shows mastery of the &quot;theoretical and topical terrain&quot;. If the argument is good, and the empirics are solid, why isn&#039;t that good enough? I&#039;m not trying to pick a fight or anything, but am genuinely curious what you have to say in light of these two ostensively contradictory views.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to nitpick Brayden but a while back you wrote in regard to lit reviews:</p>
<p>&#8220;Teppo is referring to a set of tips that Ezra Z. posted to his website about how to write articles. Quoting again from Ezra’s very helpful tips: “Never write literature reviews. The only reason anyone cares about a literature is because it is helpful in clarifying puzzles in the world. So start with the puzzle.”</p>
<p>This is a nice piece of advice and one that I wish I could integrate better in my own work.&#8221;</p>
<p>So&#8230;how do you write a paper that doesn&#8217;t have an exhaustive lit review yet still shows mastery of the &#8220;theoretical and topical terrain&#8221;. If the argument is good, and the empirics are solid, why isn&#8217;t that good enough? I&#8217;m not trying to pick a fight or anything, but am genuinely curious what you have to say in light of these two ostensively contradictory views.</p>
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		<title>By: brayden</title>
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		<dc:creator>brayden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Learn by reading books and journals in  your area.&lt;/i&gt;

I couldn&#039;t agree more. Learning by reading is the backbone of any grad student&#039;s education. When grad students ask me what the best way is to learn how to write journal articles, my answer has been, &#039;read, read, and read.&#039; Most students don&#039;t read enough. They think they&#039;re reading a lot because they&#039;re doing all of the reading required of them in their graduate courses, but this is just the minimum amount of reading you should be doing. You need to read more than you think you should.

Academics have a certain style that can only be learned through absorption. Part of good writing is figuring out how to tell a theoretical story logically and in an interesting enough way that it will capture reviewers&#039; attention. Mimicry of others&#039; styles is a great way to get that first article written and out to the editor.

Another reason it&#039;s important to read a lot is because it&#039;s the only way you&#039;re going to pick up on the vast amount of literature that you should know just to be able to engage readers in intelligent conversations. As a reviewer, I can&#039;t tell you how irritating it is when someone presents a fairly good argument and evidence but the paper is written with little comprehension of the theoretical and topical terrain. Citing Weber (or Dimaggio and Powell) is not enough to show your mastery of an area. The only way you can develop nuanced arguments is if you have a comprehensive understanding of the literature and you can&#039;t get that unless you read a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Learn by reading books and journals in  your area.</i></p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more. Learning by reading is the backbone of any grad student&#8217;s education. When grad students ask me what the best way is to learn how to write journal articles, my answer has been, &#8216;read, read, and read.&#8217; Most students don&#8217;t read enough. They think they&#8217;re reading a lot because they&#8217;re doing all of the reading required of them in their graduate courses, but this is just the minimum amount of reading you should be doing. You need to read more than you think you should.</p>
<p>Academics have a certain style that can only be learned through absorption. Part of good writing is figuring out how to tell a theoretical story logically and in an interesting enough way that it will capture reviewers&#8217; attention. Mimicry of others&#8217; styles is a great way to get that first article written and out to the editor.</p>
<p>Another reason it&#8217;s important to read a lot is because it&#8217;s the only way you&#8217;re going to pick up on the vast amount of literature that you should know just to be able to engage readers in intelligent conversations. As a reviewer, I can&#8217;t tell you how irritating it is when someone presents a fairly good argument and evidence but the paper is written with little comprehension of the theoretical and topical terrain. Citing Weber (or Dimaggio and Powell) is not enough to show your mastery of an area. The only way you can develop nuanced arguments is if you have a comprehensive understanding of the literature and you can&#8217;t get that unless you read a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: Fabio Rojas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fabio Rojas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Michael Bishop&#039;s responses, but let me add a few words about reviews and edited volume chapters.

Overall, these publications rarely get you any credit - and rightfully so. A 500 word comment on another person&#039;s book is not exactly worthy of promotion or hiring. On the other hand, chapters and reviews can do other things - they can introduce ideas and once in a while, they hit big. So the primary reason to do these sorts of publications is not career advancement. It&#039;s to push an intellectual agenda and raise issues you think are very important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Michael Bishop&#8217;s responses, but let me add a few words about reviews and edited volume chapters.</p>
<p>Overall, these publications rarely get you any credit &#8211; and rightfully so. A 500 word comment on another person&#8217;s book is not exactly worthy of promotion or hiring. On the other hand, chapters and reviews can do other things &#8211; they can introduce ideas and once in a while, they hit big. So the primary reason to do these sorts of publications is not career advancement. It&#8217;s to push an intellectual agenda and raise issues you think are very important.</p>
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		<title>By: Bedhaya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bedhaya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grad students and junior assistant professors are often told not to bother with book reviews or book chapters. But I have written several reviews and a book chapter, and I think they are a good way to get your name out there and make connections with other people in your field. They definitely don&#039;t count for as much as a sole authored article, but I think they do add to your CV. For example, the fact that you are asked to write reviews shows search committees that you are known to have expertise in a particular area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grad students and junior assistant professors are often told not to bother with book reviews or book chapters. But I have written several reviews and a book chapter, and I think they are a good way to get your name out there and make connections with other people in your field. They definitely don&#8217;t count for as much as a sole authored article, but I think they do add to your CV. For example, the fact that you are asked to write reviews shows search committees that you are known to have expertise in a particular area.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Pitt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Pitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post.

Quick question:

What is the value of publishing book reviews, book chapters, etc?</description>
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<p>Quick question:</p>
<p>What is the value of publishing book reviews, book chapters, etc?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Bishop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Josh

I think the closest thing is the annual review of sociology.

@ Jason

I say submit it, especially if you&#039;re going into academia, but even if you aren&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Josh</p>
<p>I think the closest thing is the annual review of sociology.</p>
<p>@ Jason</p>
<p>I say submit it, especially if you&#8217;re going into academia, but even if you aren&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: jason kielbasa</title>
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		<dc:creator>jason kielbasa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a master&#039;s in history. The professors who helped me finish this stated with revision they felt it was good enough to get into some type of history journal.I am currently getting my master&#039;s in Library Information Science. It has been a year since I finished my history degree. 

I want to know would it be worth taking up the professors offer and turning the dissertation into a journal worthy article, especially if I am now in another field? I mean it is always a good thing to get your name out but is it worth the time and trouble of doing so, if I am going to be working in another field?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a master&#8217;s in history. The professors who helped me finish this stated with revision they felt it was good enough to get into some type of history journal.I am currently getting my master&#8217;s in Library Information Science. It has been a year since I finished my history degree. </p>
<p>I want to know would it be worth taking up the professors offer and turning the dissertation into a journal worthy article, especially if I am now in another field? I mean it is always a good thing to get your name out but is it worth the time and trouble of doing so, if I am going to be working in another field?</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there a sociology version of the JEL or JEP where students could keep track of trends?</description>
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		<title>By: musa</title>
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		<dc:creator>musa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice comment by mike3550. Reading published work as a grad student can be very intimidating, and I think part of the training to become a professional academic is going through the first-hand experience of taking an idea to rough draft to polished draft to submission and publication. 

That said, the review process itself probably deserves its own post - what to do when the reviews conflict and the editor doesn&#039;t really clarify; when to make the reviewers&#039; requested changes and when to politely point out he/she is out of line. Also, the review process can help an inexperienced student overcome paralyzing perfectionism. In my opinion, grad students should not be afraid to &quot;pull the trigger&quot; on a paper and submit it for review even if it isn&#039;t &quot;perfect&quot;. I probably overly revised some papers as a grad student thinking they were never good enough. As long as you&#039;re sure the paper won&#039;t get rejected outright (and you can have your advisor help you with that), having a paper fall into that middle ground of &quot;accepted with revisions&quot; or even &quot;revise and resubmit&quot; can, in fact, be a good place for a graduate student to be. At that point (if the editor is good) it is very clear what needs to be done to get the paper published, and you won&#039;t waste more time doing endless revisions trying to write the &quot;perfect&quot; paper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice comment by mike3550. Reading published work as a grad student can be very intimidating, and I think part of the training to become a professional academic is going through the first-hand experience of taking an idea to rough draft to polished draft to submission and publication. </p>
<p>That said, the review process itself probably deserves its own post &#8211; what to do when the reviews conflict and the editor doesn&#8217;t really clarify; when to make the reviewers&#8217; requested changes and when to politely point out he/she is out of line. Also, the review process can help an inexperienced student overcome paralyzing perfectionism. In my opinion, grad students should not be afraid to &#8220;pull the trigger&#8221; on a paper and submit it for review even if it isn&#8217;t &#8220;perfect&#8221;. I probably overly revised some papers as a grad student thinking they were never good enough. As long as you&#8217;re sure the paper won&#8217;t get rejected outright (and you can have your advisor help you with that), having a paper fall into that middle ground of &#8220;accepted with revisions&#8221; or even &#8220;revise and resubmit&#8221; can, in fact, be a good place for a graduate student to be. At that point (if the editor is good) it is very clear what needs to be done to get the paper published, and you won&#8217;t waste more time doing endless revisions trying to write the &#8220;perfect&#8221; paper.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Bishop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Present the paper locally
2. Submit it to a conference
3. Get feed back from professors, fellow grad students.

Then submit it to a top journal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Present the paper locally<br />
2. Submit it to a conference<br />
3. Get feed back from professors, fellow grad students.</p>
<p>Then submit it to a top journal.</p>
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		<title>By: mike3550</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike3550</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing that was crucial for me to learn how to publish in graduate school was to read first drafts (or at least pre-publication drafts) of articles written by advisors or senior colleagues.  I was lucky enough to have seen some of these drafts working with an advisor, but also offered suggestions on other manuscripts for faculty in my department.  I had a serious block reading journal articles and thinking that it was impossible to have something that good in graduate school; but, published journal articles have gone through a substantial number of revisions before they end up on paper.  Seeing what people more senior to me write before it gets published helped me realize that I could write something that could lead to a publication.

Also, on the team approach -- I think that you have said this elsewhere, but you should have very clear roles outlined at the beginning of a project so that everyone has the same expectations and there are no surprises down the road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing that was crucial for me to learn how to publish in graduate school was to read first drafts (or at least pre-publication drafts) of articles written by advisors or senior colleagues.  I was lucky enough to have seen some of these drafts working with an advisor, but also offered suggestions on other manuscripts for faculty in my department.  I had a serious block reading journal articles and thinking that it was impossible to have something that good in graduate school; but, published journal articles have gone through a substantial number of revisions before they end up on paper.  Seeing what people more senior to me write before it gets published helped me realize that I could write something that could lead to a publication.</p>
<p>Also, on the team approach &#8212; I think that you have said this elsewhere, but you should have very clear roles outlined at the beginning of a project so that everyone has the same expectations and there are no surprises down the road.</p>
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		<title>By: Good publishing advice from orgtheory.net &#171; Karl Bakeman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Good publishing advice from orgtheory.net &#171; Karl Bakeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] advice from&#160;orgtheory.net June 29, 2009   Fabio Rojas gives sociology grad students some good advice on publishing in his latest post on Orgtheory.net. Here are a few highlights: What counts as [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] advice from&nbsp;orgtheory.net June 29, 2009   Fabio Rojas gives sociology grad students some good advice on publishing in his latest post on Orgtheory.net. Here are a few highlights: What counts as [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Basbøll</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Basbøll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Fabio! I think the key insight to get across to grad students is always to be writing (and thinking) &quot;for publication&quot;. The journal literature is the conversation you want to be having about your results. So you are looking at your empirical material, not just with your supervisor or committee or fellow students, but with your peers, in mind. And, yes, there is no need to get hung up on quantity. One or two good solid publications make a strong impression.

So, though it&#039;s basically already in your post, I&#039;d emphasize: you should continously be framing your results for journal publication.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Fabio! I think the key insight to get across to grad students is always to be writing (and thinking) &#8220;for publication&#8221;. The journal literature is the conversation you want to be having about your results. So you are looking at your empirical material, not just with your supervisor or committee or fellow students, but with your peers, in mind. And, yes, there is no need to get hung up on quantity. One or two good solid publications make a strong impression.</p>
<p>So, though it&#8217;s basically already in your post, I&#8217;d emphasize: you should continously be framing your results for journal publication.</p>
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		<title>By: Publishing: is it all an insider&#8217;s game? &#171; Entertaining Research</title>
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		<dc:creator>Publishing: is it all an insider&#8217;s game? &#171; Entertaining Research</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 04:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] That is fabiorojas with the twenty second installment of his grad skool rulz. [...]</description>
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