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pukeworthy comparisons and insight into relative depravation

Steve Levitt, has a provocative blog post up today.  Forwarding a reader’s email he asks:

“What other benefits can be found in poverty? Obviously there is a difference between the regular poverty of say, a good chunk of Western college students versus the extreme poverty of many people in Africa. Depending on the situation, I am thinking there could be a connection between poverty and with things like creative resourcefulness and happiness.” Your thoughts?

As for thoughts, an orgTheorist who shall go nameless posted this on his facebook page questioning whether Steve might have had an aneurysm.  Its hard to disagree with that sentiment.

But then it did make me think of Amartya Sen’s argument in Development as Freedom.  In a nut shell, Sen’s goal is to shift the debate away from mainstream economists’ notions of utility and from philosophical (sociological?) questions of justice or fairness to emphasize the capability of people to do and be what they value.

Echoing Levitt’s reader’s (puke-worthy, yet nevertheless thought provoking) comparison of Western college students and “people in Africa” (whatever that means given that it is a continent of 1 billion people and countless cultures and subcultures), Sen’s argument is, fundamentally, that poverty is relative.

If a lack of income is standing in the way of doing things you want to do — worship, vote, be comfortable — then you are poor.  But those restrictions can come just as easily from social norms, religious edicts or political structure as income.  At the same time, simply having a low income does not make one either poor or unhappy.  The Botswanan bushman who is living a full and meaningful life within a traditional society is neither unhappy nor poor because he has full capability to achieve what he wants to achieve in life.

Sen likes to point out that in his wanderings in Calcutta’s ghettos, he never encountered anyone who said that their poverty made them unhappy.  The same, I venture, could not be said of your average college student living on loans.  Myself, I remember spending a few very miserable winters in Ithaca eating ramen noodles.  Yet, the capabilities of the Calcuttan ghetto-dweller to achieve the things they may want to achieve are vastly inferior to the capabilities of the students.  So why are they happier?  The difference is, essentially, ignorance: the poor in Calcutta make-due under overwhelmingly adverse circumstances while students in the US feel worse off relative to others in society.  The poor may seem happier, but their happiness is in light of their relative lack of freedom compared to the US student.  Which is worse?  Sen argues that happy ignorance is not bliss.  I’d say I have to agree.

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Written by seansafford

February 5, 2010 at 7:19 pm

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  1. As Woody Allen remarks somewhere, wealth is better than poverty, if only for financial reasons.

    Kieran

    February 5, 2010 at 7:26 pm

  2. A rehash of the Maslow hierarchy. Poor college kids have basic physiological needs and safety met, but they don’t have the tools (cash) for self-realization. Third world folks haven’t food or water.

    fabiorojas

    February 5, 2010 at 8:24 pm

  3. Well, self-reported happiness studies (whatever value they have) show a strong relation between happiness and income. Then you have revealed preferences–people move out of Calcutta in droves (and many more would like to do so), generally to richer places. This is not to say relative happiness doesn’t play a role–only that absolute happiness exists as well. I don’t think there are any grounds for saying that Calcutta slum dwellers are “happier” in ways that aren’t anecdotal or paternalistic.

    And then you have a strong relation between the social values and empowering norms we favor and overall wealth. (outlined for instance in Benjamin Freedman’s Moral Consequnces of Growth). It’s no coincidence that it’s hard to pass health reform during a deep recession.

    Thorfinn

    February 5, 2010 at 8:36 pm

  4. As the last commenter pointed out, whether you care about “revealed preference” or about happiness surveys, or whatever, Calcuttans (?, perhaps Calcuttois, it has a good ring) are in general less happy than American college students.

    afinetheorem

    February 5, 2010 at 8:40 pm

  5. Doesn’t Steve post under his own name, rather than “Freakonomics”? My guess is that this was posted by staff.

    Michael Bishop

    February 6, 2010 at 6:26 pm

  6. Kolkata

    Kolkatan

    REW

    February 7, 2010 at 12:39 am


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