google+ and facebook hatred

A friend invited me to google+a few days ago. I signed up and I’ve just started to dig around. I haven’t had time to explore, but it seems like it could be very good. For example, rather than have your whole life be seen by all friends, you easily create “circles” – different networks. You can post stuff only for friends, family, etc. Simmel would be proud. Also, google+ is linked to Gmail and other Google tools, which is very smart, and Google is trying to destroy Skype by having “hang out,” which is free video conferencing. I’d be interested in your comments and user experiences.

On a side note, a friend on FB wanted to move to Google+ because she really hates Facebook. The advertising for Google+ also appeals to the idea that Facebook makes people self-conscious. I can’t blame them. Facebook tries to own all rights to anything transmitted via Facebook and the format is copied after a yearbook. Google+ seems more like a flexible tool/format, rather than a juiced up rolodex. Facebook, in my view, really was the first web site to fully grasp how  social media would work, but the emotional psychology was off. Maybe addressing the self-consciousness of social media will be Google’s great contribution.

Written by fabiorojas

July 10, 2011 at 1:24 pm

Posted in fabio, fun

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  1. Sounds like an upgrade, although the real advantage to being on Facebook is its network value. The more people who belong to the network, the greater the value it has for its members. It might take Google+ a while to catch up.

    Does anyone have an invitation to spare?


    brayden king

    July 10, 2011 at 2:43 pm

  2. If you do have a spare invitation, my email is


    brayden king

    July 10, 2011 at 3:12 pm

  3. Thanks for the invitations Jessica and Conrad!


    brayden king

    July 10, 2011 at 3:42 pm

  4. What I think is interesting is that FB does have the capability to do “circles” but never tried to sell it as a feature- you can easily create groups and then post status updates that only go to those groups- it is, as far as I can tell- the same as circles. Granted, it’s much easier to do in google+.

    My favorite aspect of google+ so far is how privacy options are handled.



    July 10, 2011 at 4:04 pm

  5. You know what? If you give your photos to Google, guess who gets to do with them as they want? That’s right. GOOGLE. So, really, you’re just switching from the devil you know to the devil you don’t know all that well. It’s kind of like a rebound relationship. This is the honeymoon stage for Google+.



    July 10, 2011 at 5:19 pm

  6. @Melissa: Maybe I’m just much more savvy with Facebook privacy after all the times I had to go back and change/check the settings, but I struggled with setting my Google/Google+ profile to my preferred level of privacy. While I had a Google profile previously, I thought it was private (or at least semi-private), but as soon as Google+ started and I joined, it – and everything in it – shot up to the top of Google searches.



    July 10, 2011 at 6:06 pm

  7. I found this tutorial of privacy configuration on google+ really helpful.



    July 10, 2011 at 6:10 pm

  8. Melissa refers to the sharing aspects of Circles being similar in capability to Facebook lists… and this is correct – you can select your target audience in both systems with pretty good specificity with some effort.

    What Circles seems to do better is allow for the filtering of incoming streams of information using the same tool. You can use a Circle as a target and/or as a filter. This is Google’s added value at this point. That and a significantly easier and more elegant interaction design.



    July 10, 2011 at 6:29 pm

  9. Terrell, thanks for pointing out how the circles help to filter incoming information. I don’t have much incoming yet (I have relatively few contacts on google+) so that benefit had not been apparent to me.

    @Jessica- perhaps that our experiences have been different is due to when we joined or having a google profile prior to joining? I’ve never had a google profile and found that when I joined google+ the defaults were set to the highest level of privacy. This is all speculation, of course.



    July 11, 2011 at 12:41 am

  10. Oops, I stand corrected. My profile privacy default was not at the highest level of privacy, only the settings for sharing on my stream. Thanks to Alan for sharing that helpful link!



    July 11, 2011 at 12:55 am

  11. Facebook is openly selling your eyeballs to advertisers in ways that are creepy but obvious. Google is quietly scanning the contents of your email, documents, searches, maps, videos and images with behavior tracking cookies to a very detailed database about you.

    You can choose who among your friends see various things you upload. Google sees and indexes them all.

    I did leave Facebook because its overt privacy violations and constantly changing default settings were creepy. I avoid Google products as much as my job allows. Google’s stated goal is to know you so well that they provide your search results before you type a search term or question.

    To me, that is more creepy than anything I ever saw on Facebook.


    Sister Edith

    July 11, 2011 at 4:21 am

  12. I highly recommend Chris Baraniuk’s piece on Facebook and Narcissism. “If you agree with me that the design and functionality of each social networking medium directly influences or dictates content posted by users, then you must also agree that such media actively define methods of self-presentation.”

    Here’s the link:



    July 14, 2011 at 3:58 pm

  13. The Google+ project is the beginning of the end for Facebook. It’s not going to happen fast, but it will happen!

    More on that here: Google turning sociable and NOT nice:


  14. i think there will be some fight, here is a comparison of both



    September 4, 2011 at 1:58 pm

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