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should i get an mba? let orgtheory make the choice

My cousin likes asking me if he should get an MBA because I say “not a good idea for a lot of people.” The advice goes against the credentialism rampant in our society. What’s the reasoning? Here it goes. For the sake of discussion, let’s say you make $50k/year. Then:

  • the total cost of an MBA = tuition + expenses +opportunity cost
  • total costs from a leading institution, like Stanford, is: $76k
  • For two years = $160k (let’s round it out)
  • opportunity cots = $100k (lost income)
  • total costs = $260,000

Now, we’re treating this like a business decision. Let’s use this bank calculator. At 6% over 15 years, you need to earn an extra $2,190 per month. In other words, you need increase your before tax monthly income by this amount to justify the MBA. That’s about $25,000 *extra* per year.

Here’s the subtle part, graduates from leading MBA programs can easily make this amount. Many make back some of it during summer internships. However, few graduates from the bulk of lower ranked business schools will get this huge pay boost (50% in this hypothetical case).

Ultimately, you should get an MBA if:

  • you are going to a highly ranked program which channels you into highly paid management positions (usually top 20 or 30 programs),
  • you are making very little salary now, so opportunity costs are low
  • somebody else will pay for your tuition/expenses, like your current company
  • the program is lower priced (Haas is only $50k a year)

Otherwise, I’d think very carefully before signing up for more education.

Written by fabiorojas

December 1, 2008 at 2:07 am

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  1. I guess you assume that money is the right lens through which you evaluate your decision.

    suppose you make your $50K by operating a small kindergarden in your neighborhood, or by giving private math lessons. you want to become a management consultant, or a higher level manager. even if financially it is better for you to keep doing your math lessons, an MBA can get you were you really want.

    I guess that even from the financial perspective you could argue that before an MBA your income (currently $50k) is bounded, say by $75k (npv of any future raise). while MBA might get you started only at $60k (not enough according to your calculations), but with an upper bound of $150k, depending on your abilities, future career choices and some luck.

    anyway… I don’t think that financial arguments is the right choice in making the decision concerning what and where to study.

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    amit

    December 1, 2008 at 4:24 am

  2. Amit, most of the time, I might agree. But for an MBA, it should be a central concern. Heck, if you can’t calculate the expected return on your own business education, what right do you have to make choices for your shareholders?

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    fabiorojas

    December 1, 2008 at 4:39 am

  3. too simple, what about rising tuition costs? Cheaper now than later? Loan rates timing and market rates? Quality of before/after jobs? Lost wages at younger ages versus older ages? Flexibility with higher education? Less reliance on market, more freedom. The value of education can exceed it’s benefits.. right? oh wait, MBA, nevermind, nobody cares for quality of life there..

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    Eric

    December 2, 2008 at 2:57 pm

  4. Eric: A few quick comments –

    1. Yes, you can tweak the calculations in some ways, but the bottom line is that getting an MBA is like taking out a mortgage. You will have to shell out, at current prices, $1-$2k per month for the degree after graduation. So your income – however you calculate it – has to significantly rise. Consistent with this observation is that many organizations will pay for the MBA (like the military) because they know that the income boost itself, in many professions, won’t justify the training.

    2. Quality of life: That’s certainly important, but I’ll ask – have you (or anyone) else measured quality of life for MBA grads and those with similar skills but didn’t get the degree? When I see the evidence, I’ll change my mind.

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    Fabio Rojas

    December 2, 2008 at 4:43 pm

  5. Great post, Fabio! I think your calculation overstates the cost of an MBA a bit. Living expenses would be approximately the same whether you’re in school or working so they shouldn’t factor into the analysis. That would make the total cost of an MBA = $210,000 meaning you need to earn an extra $1,772 per month or about $21,000 extra per year.

    I just linked to your post, describing why I went into a part-time rather than full-time MBA program and why that can be a cost-effective way to get an MBA. I also did a similar cost analysis for JD and PhD programs. (I’m currently in GMU’s JD/PhD program in law and economics.)

    You can see my post here: http://thinkingonthemargin.blogspot.com/2008/12/should-you-get-mba-what-about-jd-or-phd.html

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    Brian Hollar

    December 2, 2008 at 4:52 pm

  6. Well it goes without saying that an MBA can improve one’s living standards. Of course that person has to have much more than an advanced degree (character, drive, experience, common sense, people skills, and others). So, you add these factors to an MBA…you complete school in a couple of years, regardless of the NPV it can be a good investment.

    However, people need to realize degrees are not the only determinant in getting them where they want to be in life. It’s a combination of the above factors. I have about 6 months to go before receiving my MBA. It’s a risk just like any investment, but in my case its one well worth taking.

    Finally, don’t assume an MBA is a golden ticket to having your home profiled on MTV Cribs. Develop every possible area of your life you can (character, networks, experience, etc.) supplement it with an MBA, and get busy working to pay back those loans.

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    David

    December 3, 2008 at 1:24 am


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